Archive for April, 2012

AWCI Convention Travelogue for 2012

Thursday, April 26th, 2012

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Get Paid to Share Your Fascinating Watch/Clock Story

Monday, April 23rd, 2012


AWCI’s Horological Times is interested in publishing YOUR story about a fascinating or
next-to-impossible watch or clock repair you were involved in.

Do you have an interesting repair story you can share? Please email: moc.icwanull@uaedolibj 

(In addition to being published in Horological Times, your story may also be covered by additional media (radio) in the near future).

A writer’s appreciation fee is offered for published stories.


(Photo courtesy of Ernest Tope, CMW21)





2012 AWCI Convention

Thursday, April 12th, 2012

2012 Daily Meeting Schedule
Denver Convention, Aug 1 – 5th
(E-mail moc.icwanull@ofni for more information)

2012 Pricing – Denver Convention, Aug 1 – 5th
Early bird registration (through 7/13/12) – $449
Standard registration (after 7/13/12) – $499
1-day registration – $250
REC Students – half price – early bird – $225
REC Students – half price – standard – $250
Vendor Tables (2 half-days) two 8’ tables – $349  (internet/electric included/individuals must pay own registration)
ELM Trust Dinner – $75 per person
Plus-One early bird registration – $299 (includes all convention-sponsored meals – all activities on their own)
Plus-One standard registration – $349



  • Breakfast- On your own
  • 8-10 am- ELM Trust
  • 10:15 am-12:15 pm -Perpetuation Fund
  • 9 am- 12 pm- Affiliate Chapter
  • 12 pm-1:30 pm- Lunch (on your own)
  • 1:30 – 3:30 pm – BOE Meeting
  • 3:45 – 5:30 pm – REC Meeting
  • Dinner- on your own
  • 9 pm- 12 midnight – Hospitality Room


  • Breakfast- on your own
  • 8 am – 12:00 pm – IAB Meeting
  • 12 pm-1:30 pm- Lunch (on your own)
  • 1:30- 5:30 pm- BOD
  • 6:30-9 pm- Welcome Reception
  • 9 pm- 12 midnight – Hospitality Room


  Stephen Forsey
Keynote Speaker:
Stephen Forsey of Greubel Forsey specialized in antique clock restoration before he became head of Watch Restoration at Asprey’s in London. In 1992 he joined Robert Greubel’s team. Forsey and Greubel are, first and foremost, inventors. Their timepieces are sophisticated, meticulously decorated manifestations of the technical inventions that come from their creative cauldron. This is guaranteed to be a fascinating presentation!



  • 7-8:30 am Breakfast Provided
  • 8-8:30 am – Keynote Speaker: Stephen Forsey
  • 8:30 am – 12:30 pm- Watchmaker Education – 3 classes

            Watch Education (1/2 CEU for all 3 classes)

            Tom Schomaker, CMW21

            Wesley Grau, CMW21

            Jordan Ficklin, CW21

  • 8:30 am – 12:30 pm- Clockmaker Education – 3 classes

            Clock Education

            Bob Ockenden, CMC

            Mark Purdy, CC21

            Ron Iverson, CMC

  • 12:30-1:30 pm – Lunch Provided
  • 1:30 pm- 5:30 pm- Trade Fair
  • 6-9 pm- ELM Fund Raising Dinner,  Speaker: Archie Perkins
  • 9 pm- 12 midnight – Hospitality Room

   Archie Perkins

Book Signing & Dinner Speaker
Archie Perkins, a legend in watchmaking, will be signing his newest AWCI-published book: Antique Watch Restoration, Vlm I. Mr. Perkins has served on the AWCI Board of Directors. He has achieved the distinguished titles of Certified Master Watchmaker and Fellow of AWCI, Fellow of NAWCC, and Fellow of the British Horological Institute.



  • 7-8:30 am- Breakfast Provided
  • 8:30 to 12:30 pm – Trade Fair & Archie Perkins book signing
  • 12:30-1:30 pm – Lunch Provided
  • 1:30 – 5:30 pm-Watchmaker Education – 3 classes
  • 1:30 – 5:30 pm – Clockmaker Education – 3 classes
  • 6- 7 pm – President’s Reception
  • 7-9 pm – Awards Dinner
  • 9 pm- 12 midnight – Hospitality Room


  • 8 – 9:30 a.m. – Farewell Breakfast



Vintage Watches – NY TIMES

Monday, April 9th, 2012

A Trophy Investment That Can Also Keep You Punctual

Published: April 6, 2012
New York Times

FINE watches have long been about more than just telling time. They have served as gifts for graduation and retirement. They have been collected and coveted for their craftsmanship. They are often flaunted as status symbols.

Even so, the current economic climate would not seem conducive for timepieces filled with wheels and springs — the finest ones do not use batteries — that start at $15,000 and go up to $1 million or more. Plus, any cellphone can tell you the time.       

It turns out, though, that the market for vintage timepieces has been booming. Watches are now the sixth largest department at Christie’s, accounting for $116 million in sales in 2011. That was a 26 percent increase from the year before, and much of the growth is being driven by Asian collectors.       

“We have new collectors looking at watches as alternative investments,” said Sam Hines, head of watches in Asia for Christie’s. “There has also been the formation of a trophy market.”       

These trophies are watches that are very rare, if not one of a kind. Last year, the most expensive wristwatch sold at auction was a Patek Philippe chronograph from 1928, which sold in Geneva for $3.6 million, a record price for that model.       

The demand is only partly driven by the watches’ condition, rarity and “complications” — the horological term for how many different things a watch keeps track of, from day and date to bells that chime at precise intervals. Instead, much as an art gallery does for an artist, the top-end watchmakers have created an allure around their brands.       

Patek Philippe, the strongest performer at auctions with eight of the 10 highest prices at Christie’s in 2011, focuses on legacy, with advertisements evoking fathers and sons in earnest discussion over what a watch can mean to their relationship. Breguet has featured its most famous owners in advertisements, including Napoleon, Marie Antoinette and Winston Churchill.       

Audemars Piguet has gone the other way, signing up a roster of athletes whose sports connote precision, including golfers, tennis players and racecar drivers.       

So it would seem safe to assume that these timepieces are good investments. Certainly watchmakers and auction houses are in no hurry to dispel that notion. But many collectors — even those whose own watches have doubled or tripled in value — are quick to dissuade people who want to speculate on time, as it were.       

“From an investment point of view, most watches do not do very well,” said William Massena, a real estate consultant who collects Patek Philippe watches. “You have to be a smart buyer to have a watch hold its value.”       

He said his collection, which began with a Patek Philippe Calatrava that he bought in Paris 18 years ago, has appreciated substantially, with some watches tripling or quadrupling in value. But he attributes that success to timing, a bit of luck and a very different market.       

“People weren’t interested in these watches when I bought them,” Mr. Massena said. “I was lucky enough to get in early and to have the taste of my generation — sporty, chronograph, bigger watches.”       

So what gives a watch investment potential as opposed to just being an expensive way to tell time? Here is some of what I learned.       


The likelihood that watches will increase in value depends on how few were made and how complicated they are. But their value also depends on how the watch has been maintained.       

Paul Boutros, an engineer who collects watches made by Vacheron Constantin and Audemars Piguet, said owners often inadvertently undercut the investment potential of a watch by regularly wearing it. Sweat, for example, can enter the case and cause it to decay. Or if the face fades or shows wear, and the owner gets it refinished. “The person wearing the watch likes that, but we collectors want all original all the time,” he said. “We look for legitimacy in the watch.”       

Hugues de Pins, president of Vacheron Constantin North America, advised collectors to look for something rare in gold or platinum and to focus on watches made in limited editions if they hope for their purchase to appreciate. His company’s watches range in price from $10,000 to $800,000.       

The company recently bought a rare pocket watch it made in 1918 for $1.7 million at auction. The 20-karat gold watch, owned by James Ward Packard, the automobile maker, had been sitting unnoticed in a family bank vault for 60 years.       


Wealthy, but not necessarily knowledgeable, watch buyers face various risks.       

Fraud is an obvious one. And these fakes are not the knockoff Rolexes sold at tourist stops in Manhattan. The outright fakes are usually models that were produced in greater quantities than the rare, complicated watches, and feel real, too.       

There are subtler problems. Patrick van der Vorst, a former Sotheby’s appraiser and the founder of, said determining whether a watch was fake or real was easy for an appraiser. But assessing if someone has cut corners in maintaining a watch takes more time.       

“What mainly happens, even for the very expensive watches, is that someone buys a $2,000 watch and reuses the original wheels or crown but in the more expensive watch,” Mr. Van der Vorst said. “They’re original watch parts, but they wouldn’t have belonged to that watch.”       

While the watch is not a fake, its value is lower.       

The big risk now is that the brands that have appreciated so much over the last 30 years may not be the ones that appreciate over the next decade.       

Mr. Massena said he wrote a post on the TimeZone watch forum in 1998 about the vintage watches that he thought were most undervalued. “I was wrong in everything I wrote,” he said. “If you want to invest, buy stocks or real estate.”       

Mr. Hines said that while there was high demand from Asian collectors for many types of fine watches, their interest was increasingly directed at small brands, like F. P. Journe and Greubel Forsey.       


Some watchmakers are taking a more active role in the management of their vintage market.       

Audemars Piguet has created an exhibition to celebrate the 40th anniversary of the Royal Oak, its distinctive and popular sports watch. The exhibit opened for four days in New York last month and will travel to Milan, Paris, Beijing, Singapore and Dubai.       

Francois-Henry Bennahmias, president and chief executive of Audemars Piguet North America, said a Royal Oak cost $3,000 in 1972 and would be worth $35,000 to $60,000 today, depending on the condition. He said new Royal Oaks started at $14,000.       

Mr. Bennahmias said the company’s watches had not been appreciating as quickly as they did before 2008, when the company was producing limited edition watches whose values could rise 20 to 40 percent from the preorder to release date. He said clients now were more interested in the watch holding its value or not depreciating too greatly.       

Vacheron Constantin, founded in 1755, has just started to sell its own vintage watches, which the company is tuning up and authenticating. Mr. de Pins said the company wanted to meet client demand for authentic vintage watches.       

For people who covet these fine watches but cannot afford a new one, this could be an option. Vacheron’s vintage collection in New York was selling a round, gold wristwatch from 1956 for $9,000. Mr. de Pins said a similar model new would retail for $18,000.       

Short of that, a collector can hope to be lucky. Mr. Boutros, whose passion for watches started as a hobby with his father, said they once bought an Audemars Piguet in 1989 from a jewelry dealer who could not even pronounce the watchmaker’s name.       

“At the time, the retail price was about $15,000,” he said. “He got it in trade and wanted $1,000 for it.”       

“The quality just stood out, every little detail,” Mr. Boutros said. “That’s when I realized the high end is for real.”